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�Gurudev Hardev� - Part I has already been published and its copies reprinted from time to time.  It contained a brief account of the activities of His Holiness Baba Hardev Singh Ji Maharaj from April 24, 1980 to August 15, 1982.  �Gurudev Hardev� - Part II seeks to present a glimpse of his life and give a similar account of activities from August 15, 1982 to January, 1984.  As you go through it, you will find to what heights he led this movement of human emancipation during this small period of about one and half years, with his divine power.  When you read it you will also realize what path we must follow so that we too can have the sense of participation in this movement and earn the blessings of the Supreme Being - God.  

On August 15, 1982, Mukti Parv (Spiritual Liberation Day) was celebrated with a great success.  Devotees and Mahapurushas (saints assigned with one responsibility or the other) started returning back to their homes after paying obeisance at Satgurudev�s holy feet.  Some of the devotees who stayed back at Nirankari Bhawan got an opportunity to speak to Gurudev the same night.

It may be pointed out that after dinner, Gurudev usually goes for a stroll for about one hour during which he continues discussing things with those who join him.  So, one of the saints who had stayed back, began the conversation even though quite hesitatingly and said, "Baba Ji, you told the Sewa Dal volunteers today that it is their prime duty to serve their fellow countrymen and safeguard the unity and integrity of the country.  I would humbly like to know as to how it is related to the realm of spirituality."

In a very simple and natural manner Gurudev said, "Only saints and Mahapurushas are capable of serving their fellow countrymen and protect the unity and integrity of the country. Others just cannot act in such an unselfish and unbiased manner."

The saint who had asked this question, drew closer to Gurudev and asked again somewhat reluctantly, "Baba Ji, saints consider the whole world as their family.  But those who serve their own countrymen and protect the unity and integrity of their own country, it is obvious that they will consider another country not their own and will have the feelings of jealousy and animosity towards its people.  Baba Ji, how then can they come in the category of saints?"

Gurudev Hardev was prompt to reply.  He said, "To serve one�s country or protect its unity and integrity does not mean at all that we should be fighting against other countries or treat their citizens as our enemies." Gurudev had a little pause and added, "The fact is that the one who serves one�s own countrymen and defends one�s own country, would automatically start having the same feelings for others.  He will automatically start thinking of serving others and respecting  their unity and integrity."

Elucidating this with an example, Gurudev said, "If a person is advised to serve and look after his own parents, he has not to take it as implied that he is to fight against the parents of others or to stop their children from looking after them.  In the same manner you must try to understand that this country is our motherland and all the fellow-countrymen are our brothers and sisters.  To serve them and to protect them is an essential part of our duty.   Today, I gave the same message to you all.  You must always be ready to safeguard the unity and integrity of your country and it should be your prime duty to serve your fellow countrymen.  Even otherwise, if you ponder for a moment, you will realise that those who cannot serve their own parents, cannot be expected to serve the society.  And those who cannot serve or look after the society, how can we hope from them that they will serve their country and protect its unity and integrity?�  In the same manner, the people who are not faithful to their own country, those who  do not serve and make any sacrifice for the unity and integrity of their own country, cannot be expected to serve and protect the interests of the mankind as a whole?"

Probably Gurudev wanted to say something more but Sharma Ji (J.D. Sharma) said suddenly, "Baba Ji, it is an old belief that the one who takes pity on a leper and serves him, will have to become a leper himself one day to receive the reward of his action.  Similarly, the one who gives alms to the beggars may have to become a beggar himself one day in order to reap what he has sown.  Baba Ji, today we Nirankaris are helping the flood-affected people or donating lakhs of rupees for the help of the victims of some or the other natural calamity.  Shall we also have to get the reward for this act of generosity in the same manner?"

After remaining quiet for a while, Gurudev became serious and remarked in a thoughtful and earnest manner, "Sometimes, people play havoc with the words of wise men simply because they do not understand the meaning of what they say.  Knowingly or unknowingly, they create all kinds of doubt.  The same has happened with what the saints have sought to say here."

Gurudev glanced at all of us for a moment and said, "The meaning of this saying of the Mahapurushas is only this much that whosoever does a particular action, whether good or bad, for the fulfillment of any specific desire, has to bear the consequences of that desire.  The enlightened ones know that if an action is done with a sense of its dedication towards God, lovingly and as a part of one�s duty and not as a favour, then there would be no question of reaping any reward simply because there was no desire for the reward at all.  Sharma Ji, similarly our Mission, which is giving importance to such actions, is not doing so with the desire to earn any name or fame or take any other benefit in return. Therefore, such welfare activities do not become a cause of any bondage for us."

Saying this, Gurudev proceeded towards his room and the saints also went to their respective rooms.  I too reached my house, but in deep thoughts.  As I put my head on the pillow, I just started staring at the ceiling. One thought that came to my mind again and again was that whatever Gurudev had said was certainly correct. However, while it was true in principle, it was not likely to hold good from practical point of view.  Suddenly, Baba Ji�s image appeared on the screen of my mind and I could hear him stating, "I have already explained that saints do not discriminate between their own kith and kin and others.  They do look after their families but at the same time they never lag behind anybody else in the matter of serving the society and the country.  And while they are prepared to sacrifice even their lives for the sake of their own country they never lag behind others to serve humanity, rather every living creature."

In this manner, even the wave of thoughts that rose in my mind was put to rest.

After some days, the moment I found Gurudev a little free, I requested him, "Baba Ji, you had promised to some saints from Shakur Basti and Punjabi Bagh that as soon as you get some time, you will visit their places and bless them.  If you so ordain, those saints can be informed about the date and the time so that they can have the privilege of meeting you and seeking your benign blessings."

Gurudev kept quiet.  I could not hold myself and said again, "Baba Ji, you are scheduled to go on tour after some days.  They are very few families. You can easily oblige them now and set their anxiety at rest.  They have been requesting for your visit for long." On hearing these words His Holiness reacted at once and said, "Only you say that it is a matter of few families, but I know that when we visit the area, several others will express their desire on the spot that I may visit their houses also.  This way, we may have to spend the whole day and ... ... ... ... ..."

I bowed my head and said, "Baba Ji, you may order as you deem it correct."

On this, Gurudev said, "Alright, fix one day and inform them about it well in time."

Accordingly, I got busy in this task while Gurudev proceeded towards the Mandal Office to see as usual what was going on.

After four days, on the date and time as scheduled, Gurudev reached Shakur Basti (Rani Bagh) area.  And the apprehension expressed by Gurudev on the day the programme was being decided, came true. The number of devotees wishing Gurudev to visit their houses started increasing.  As a result, the programme continued till 3.00 p.m.

Wherever Gurudev went, the members of the family felt extremely happy.  Some of them, of course, were seen and heard requesting for his blessings to solve their domestic, social or physical problems.  The sick were heard saying, "Baba Ji, who can be a better doctor than yourself in this world?  We have come to you after being tired of the doctors of the world.   Kindly bless us so that whatever money we spend on medicines and towards doctors� fee, may be spent in the service of the saints."

Gurudev Hardev heard them quite patiently and assured them, "There is nothing to worry at all. God Almighty will set everything right.  As you are very much aware, this physical body composed of five elements keeps suffering from one deficiency or the other.  It undergoes one disorder or the other.  You must consult a specialist of the disease and continue with the treatment.  It is essential to take the medicine.  God will, of course, bestow His mercy and set everything right."

Gurudev paused for a while and added, "Keep on rendering service with your body, mind and financial means according to your capacity.  If possible, get some service rendered by these sick persons also. The holy wash of the holy feet of saints and their blessings also prove helpful in curing the disease."

Certainly Gurudev infuses such a strength through his life-giving words in the entire family that even the most dejected and depressed ones get filled with hope and determination.  I have personally found several patients getting well whose recovery seemed otherwise impossible.

In one of the families, Gurudev Hardev came across such a problem that the family members thought it would be in their own interest if they did not disclose it publicly.  A lady was beseeching Baba Ji: "My husband wanders idle the whole day.  He comes home at night heavily drunk.  I had kept some money for the children at home.   He has spent even that money on his evil habits.  Now my condition is such that sometimes I have to beg for food.   Even then this is not the end of my problem.  My husband stops me from attending the Sangat (Congregation) and sometimes beats me also."

In an extremely soft tone, Gurudev said to her, "You must attend Satsang from time to time.  You feel happy when you serve all.  You know that if you want to win somebody's heart and bring him to the right path, humility, love and respect are the only weapons to achieve it.  So, you must remember the Almighty Formless and try to lead your life according to the teachings that you have received so far from Satsang.  God will definitely bestow His benevolence and peace and happiness will soon prevail in your house."

Gurudev Hardev was heard adding, "Nobody can be brought to the right path by insulting, disrespecting and criticizing him.  With such a treatment, that person would become only angry like a wounded tiger and take to violence."

Even while leaving, Gurudev was saying to her, "From today onwards you must perform your duties.  Restrain yourself from pointing a finger at your husband.  Do not keep on finding faults with him all the time.  God Almighty will definitely bestow His benevolence and there would be no dispute in the family.  Your mind will start getting peace and also being  linked more and more with Satsang and the Formless."

Gurudev also visited a family who were worried about the marriage of their grown up daughters.  The parents fell at the holy feet of Gurudev and appealed while sobbing, "Baba Ji, you can do everything.  Bless us today, so that our daughters can be married at the earliest."

Gurudev stated in a very simple way: "The benevolent God with whose grace they have taken birth and grown up and found everything they needed so far, will definitely accomplish all that is required for their marriage also.   You know it very well that all that is accomplished by the Perfect One is perfect too."  Speaking thus, Gurudev proceeded towards the next house.

In this way many problems which generally crop up in a family, such as the differences between a mother-in-law and a daughter-in-law, the children not looking after their parents or mal-treating them like servants, etc., were also mentioned to His Holiness by some of the families.  Offering a solution for the same, Gurudev stated, "You may respect all the family members as the images of the Almighty Nirankar.  If one member bows, the other will bow automatically.  You should only keep on performing your duties.  Then you will not face any problem."

Here, I consider it my duty to point out that such problems are found only in those families where one member is linked with Sadh Sangat (company of saints), while others are strayed from the Sangat and the Satguru.  Such a misunderstanding was not found in the families where all the members had faith and devotion towards Satguru and loved to be with Sadh Sangat.  In one or two families, of course, where there was some misunderstanding, all the family members fell at Baba Ji's holy feet and beseeched him, "Baba Ji, be kind to us and shower your blessings so that we do not see such a time again in this family.  As a matter of fact, Baba Ji, now that you have come to our house, we are sure that such problems will never crop up again.  Therefore, Baba Ji, please keep us blessing with your presence once in a while so that we too keep receiving happiness with your kind grace."

At some places, where the devotees were facing financial problems, Gurudev would say only this much: "Never mind, the Almighty God will set everything right.  You may continue to work hard to the best of your capacity and whatever money you earn, don�t think of spending the same on something which is not essential.  Then, spend whatever you can in the service of others. All the problems can be solved with hard work and contentment."

In one of the families, some members asked Baba Ji, "Maharaj!  We were living quite happily, having no economic problem.  But Baba Ji, what to tell you?   Some people cheated us of our savings by giving us false hopes.  Now when we ask them to return our money, they do not pay any heed.  Now you only tell us what should we do in this regard?"

Gurudev Hardev answered in his natural manner, "We become greedy and in the process we hand over to others whatever money we already possess.  So, we cannot blame others.  The fault lies with our own desire, with our own greed.   Anyway, now you should forget about it and get busy with earning your livelihood by sincere and honest hard work.  With the Almighty God, there is no dearth of anything.   Trust in God and do your duty.  The Almighty Nirankar will definitely bestow His grace and the hard times you face today will pass off soon.  As regards the people who are indulging in such wrong acts, Shahenshah Ji (Baba Avtar Singh Ji) used to say that those who cheat others of their money can not be saved even by the Guru.  Such people can never find peace."

It was 3.00 p.m. when we returned to Nirankari Colony.  As I reached home, I was astonished to find a Sewa Dal Member from Rani Bagh standing in front of the door.  An ardent Sewadar (worker), he had helped us a lot when we were visiting various houses that day.  Looking at him, I asked him anxiously, "My dear gentleman, we have just returned from your area.  What did happen?  Why have you come running after us so soon and reached here almost with us?"

The young man said in a very grim and anxious voice, "Satyarthi Ji, please sit down and relax.  If you want, you can have a cup of tea also.  My mind has been very upset since morning.  It is badly engulfed in doubts. I have come to seek your help to remove the same."

"Alright, then take a seat", I said to him as I too sat down.  The gentleman did not wait for my asking and started speaking on his own: "Satyarthi Ji, I am an ordinary Sewadar.  I have been enjoying the bliss of Sewa (service) since long.  I believe that whatever Sewa we wish to offer to the True Master, we should come and offer it at the place where he stays.  It is not correct to take him round from one house to another."

I was rather quick to react.  I said, "My dear son, the idea behind requesting the Guru to consecrate a place with his holy feet is quite different."  Then, I elucidated my words and said, "Probably you are aware of the fact that wherever the Guru goes, all the three kinds of troubles (physical and mental; those caused by the brutal animals; and those caused by natural calamities) start receding automatically.  The divine rays emanating from the Guru's body dispel all the evil forces from the house visited by him.  That is the only reason why devotees are always keen that Satguru should consecrate their houses with his holy feet."   While I was speaking, I was also observing the expressions on the youngman�s face.  I could see that he was still not satisfied with my answer; rather his mind appeared to be more agitated.  So I said to him in a very loving and polite manner, "My dear son, I feel that either you have not understood what I said or you have not liked it.  Please don�t worry and keep on asking till you are completely satisfied."  Hesitating a bit, the young man said, "No doubt you are a learned as well as an experienced saint who always accompanies the Guru.  But please excuse me as I am not going to be satisfied by any answer given by you.  I personally feel that my doubts can be clarified only by the words that come from Satguru himself: only then would end the disturbance going on in my mind.  Shastri Ji, please let me meet Satguru Baba Ji and if that is not possible then please convey these doubts of mine to Satguru and let me know the solution offered by him for the same.  That way I will feel somewhat satisfied."  Continuing with his words the young man said to me, "You can take a paper and a pen and note down the points where I have my doubts."  After pausing for a while, he added, "Truly speaking, I have not come to discuss anything with you.  I wish to seek blessings direct from His Holiness."

I realized that his faith was centred only on the True Master.  Therefore, I deemed it right that without any hesitation I should convey his feelings, as he put them, to Satguru or arrange his meeting with His Holiness.  Anyway, I took out a paper and a pen and got ready to take down what he said. The young man started speaking in an extremely emotional manner and said, "My first request is that Guru should not be taken from house to house.  My argument for this is that for such an exercise, two or three vehicles have to be taken out and ten to twenty saints have to accompany him to discharge the responsibilities assigned to them.  The precious time of His Holiness as also of those saints who accompany him on duty can be utilized for some other useful purpose.  In the same context, my second request is that the money spent on the food etc. served on these occasions can be used for some welfare activities of the Mission.  Thirdly, I feel that in this process the devotees who have big houses and are financially well off, render Sewa extravagantly and thus earn everybody's praise, whereas the ones who happen to be their neighbours but poor and do not even have a proper place to make the Guru seated, might not say anything outwardly, but definitely feel pained and suffer from an inferiority complex in their hearts due to their poverty."

After taking a long breath the young man added, "Shastri Ji,  I saw with my own eyes that only ten or fifteen people were being offered and served snacks again and again whereas the same should have been served to those also who had been on duty and running about since morning.  Even otherwise, the Sewa Dal youth deserve that they should also be fed and served to the extent one can afford.  If possible, they should also be offered some money and clothes and thus helped."

In the same breath, that young man kept saying, "I rather felt that the one who had already in abundance was being offered more, the one who was already full was being filled more."

That young man got overwhelmed while speaking thus.  His eyes became damp.  However, trying to control himself, he concluded by saying that �there are many other things which disturb me within but I feel that this is enough for the day.  Please bless me so that I may keep doing only what is ordained by Satguru.  I might not deviate from the path of Truth because of my own wilfulness.�

That youth of the Sewa Dal left, but not before creating a furore in my mind.  I was pondering as to how should I convey this young man's feelings to Gurudev.  After contemplating a lot, I decided that I should present the same in writing instead of discussing it verbally and then convey to that gentleman whatever solution Gurudev might offer.  So, after a gap of some days, as soon as I got an appropriate opportunity, I passed on a small hand-written slip to Gurudev.

While going through the piece of paper, Gurudev was smiling also.  After reading the note, His Holiness stated, "Let this young man meet me sometime.  I will speak personally to him."

Gurudev got up abruptly. I do not know what thought had come to his mind.  He, however, started speaking in an extremely grave manner.  He said, "These feelings or such a state of mind does not belong only to this youngman but to all those who start making comparison between different Mahapurushas.  Even otherwise, commenting upon every good or bad event is in the nature of mind."  Probably Gurudev had uttered these words after watching the expressions on my face because my mind was feeling even more agitated as compared to that young man.

Picking up some courage, I appealed to Gurudev, "Baba Ji, I will definitely convey your instructions to that young man and ask him to meet you.  But still, for the information of general Sangat, I too want to know your opinion in this matter.  Baba Ji, the first objection which that gentleman had is that the Guru should not be taken from house to house.  If someone wants to offer something, he should come to Guru's place and offer the same."  Gurudev stated, "To a great extent whatever he has said is correct, but the pace of Prachar (propagation) of the Mission does increase by this practice of visiting different houses. Whichever house is visited by the Guru or the Mahapurushas, usually the neighbours as well as the relations and friends of the members of that family also assemble there, whereas it might not be convenient for them all to reach the Guru�s residence."

After pausing for a moment, Gurudev stated, "Whatever I have said just now is the need today.  It is quite possible that this practice might not be practically possible in the future."

I submitted with all humility, "Baba Ji, the young man feels that the devotees have to spend a good amount of money on the hospitality of the visiting Mahapurushas.  The same can be saved and contributed as Sewa (offering)."  Gurudev smiled and said, "Even offering food or presenting some gifts is also the Sewa of Mahapurushas, which the young man is seeking to emphasize.  Sewa can be offered anywhere anytime; there is no specific place or time fixed for Sewa.  Therefore, this hospitality should also be viewed as Sewa in terms of money.  It would not be proper to describe it as an act of mere extravagance."

Touching Baba Ji's holy feet, I continued my submission and said, "Baba Ji, the young man also feels that the rich devotees are no doubt capable of rendering such Sewa, whereas the poor ones who cannot render such Sewa become victims of inferiority complex.  He thinks that the ones who really need to be given food and clothes, they do their duty outside and go back hungry and thirsty."

Suddenly, Gurudev became somewhat serious.  After pausing for a while he stated, "Ordinarily it does not happen like this, nor should it ever happen that way.  If ever it has happened like that, then one must take it that the hosts must have got completely lost in looking after the Mahapurushas.  Normally, the families who invite Mahapurushas to visit their houses should consider it their duty to pay full attention to these Sewadars along with other saints.  Rather, they should look after the Sewadars better."

Thereafter, Gurudev got busy with other things.  The moment I came out, I saw some Mukhi saints awaiting Satguru.  As is my nature and my job too, I asked them, "Yes, please tell me the purpose of your kind visit today."

All of them said in one voice that they had come to appeal to Baba Ji that till the time he is in Delhi, he may address some open programmes in their colonies so that the people there may feel blessed with his holy presence and quench their spiritual thirst with the nectar of his holy words."

I said, "OK, you wait here.   I will covey your request to His Holiness and let you know about the kind of blessings that come for you, just now."  When I presented the request of those Mukhi saints to Satgurudev, rather than giving any reply to me, he walked upto those Mahapurushas himself.  They were simply overwhelmed to behold Baba Ji and completely forgot to present their request to His Holiness that he may bless their colonies with some programmes. 

However, Gurudev said to them, "I will not be able to spare time during these days because I am going on a tour.  As soon as I come back, some programmes will definitely be organised in your colonies."

Let us remember that those were the days when not only seekers of Truth or the devotees would come to see Baba Ji, but even those who had some resentment about the Mission in their minds, used to come from all around and meet Gurudev to seek clarifications.

I remember it clearly that once some gentlemen who were angry with the Mission, met Baba Ji.  They were overwhelmed with their feelings but Gurudev did not take much time to win their hearts with his sweetness.  This incident happened at Sant Nirankari Bhawan in Sant Nirankari Colony (Delhi).  The moment those gentlemen entered Gurudev's meeting room, Baba Ji got up, welcomed them with folded hands and greeted them by bowing his head slightly.  On receiving such a hearty welcome their facial expressions began to change and I noticed that Baba Ji started talking with them very spontaneously and naturally.  One of those gentlemen who was still not able to overcome the conflict going on in his mind, addressed Gurudev in a loud voice and said, "We have not come here for a formal welcome by you.  Forget about these niceties and answer our queries in a straight-forward manner."

Smiling as his nature is, Gurudev said, "Please go ahead.  I shall gladly try to answer your queries to the best of my ability, I ... ... ... ... ..."

Gurudev was still trying to say something when another gentleman interrupted him by saying, "Baba Ji, we have heard many things about you that make our blood boil in anger.  We were told that you were not ready to talk to anybody.  Anyway, you have already removed this first misunderstanding of ours that you are a haughty person and that you are always dressed in a royal style.  On meeting you, we get the feeling as if we are old acquaintances of yours.  Your simple nature, plain dress as well as guileless smile have already won my heart.  Anyway, we have heard that you claim to be a descendant of Guru Gobind Sigh Ji and instead of treating Guru Granth Sahib as the Guru, you are getting yourself worshipped as the Guru."

Gurudev replied in quite a solemn voice, "Bhai Sahib, I consider myself the humblest of the humble.  I treat myself as the dust of the feet of all the Gurus, prophets and saints.  As regards the rumour that I consider myself the descendant of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, this is definitely the product of some wayward�s  mind.  I believe that he was an Avtari Purush (incarnation of God) of his time.  His teachings are as useful to us today as they were during those days.  I am only endeavouring to take the Truth preached by these godly personages to the masses as far as I can."

Gurudev was yet to conclude when the third gentleman interrupted him and said, "If your aim is to take only the teachings of the Gurus to every house, then why have you created a separate organisation for the same?  Why don�t you work like the rest of the Sikhs for this purpose?  Why do you not consider Guru Granth Sahib as the Guru and live like any other Sikh gentleman?"

After a brief pause, Gurudev spoke in a very polite and serene manner and said, "I neither dissociate myself from nor align myself with anyone.  I am only busy spreading the message of all the holy saints according to my own understanding and ability.  I believe from the core of my heart that the words written in Guru Granth Sahib should not be kept limited to mere reading; rather we should adopt them in our day to day life and be happy herein and hereafter."

After a pause, Gurudev said: "I would request you to sit calmly for a while and think it over honestly whether a Gursikh (true disciple) is the one who obeys the Master and acts upon what he says or the one who merely reads it and feels that he has fulfilled his duty?  My respected Brothers, in my opinion, what we need today is that we should mould our everyday life according to the holy words written in Guru Granth Sahib and try to impress upon the world through our practical lives that it is only by following the teachings of the divine Masters in their word and spirit that we can be happy in this world and hereafter."

Another gentleman was on the verge of saying something when his companions started saying, "Baba Ji!  We have felt extremely happy to meet you and we do hope that you will spare some more of your time for us so that we are able to dispel all the doubts from our minds."

Gurudev stood up from his seat and walked with them towards the door of the meeting room to see them off.

His Holiness had still not returned from the door, when a large number of devotees waiting for his blessings came in.  I was observing that despite getting late, Gurudev was listening attentively to each and every word being spoken by each of them, blessing them accordingly and thus satisfying everybody.  Seeing the dejected and disheartened faces of devotees transform into happy and excited ones, I was feeling overwhelmed and found myself praising Gurudev�s manner of dealing with Mahapurushas.  Anyway, His Holiness proceeded towards his room for his food and rest and with my notebook and pencil in my hands I left for my house.

In the afternoon at 4.30 p.m., the moment I entered Baba Ji's office, he asked me as usual, "Yes please, you want to say something?"

Bowing my head, I appealed, "Today some gentlemen met you.  With your benign grace they went back quite satisfied.  Baba Ji, some people from other faiths too have been overheard saying that Nirankari Baba considers himself to be Christ.  There are others who complain that you consider yourself an incarnation of Lord Rama or Lord Krishna.  Baba Ji, how do we remove this misunderstanding from their minds?"

His Holiness took some time and then stated in a very soft voice "Shastri Ji, as you are already aware, I have been performing this duty for the last two and a half years approximately.  During this period of time, not to speak of making a claim, I have never even considered myself so capable that one could say that I am trying to put myself at par with them.  I fail to understand as to what can be the reason behind such a misunderstanding in the minds of the people and what should we do to remove the same so that they come to know that I am preaching the ideals of Truth taught  by them only.  Shastri Ji "  Baba Ji was still speaking when I interrupted him by saying in a little boastful manner on my part, "Baba Ji, I personally feel that your own devotees like us are responsible for creating such a misconception in the minds of the people. It is we, your devotees, who under the influence of the fervor of devotion often declare that to us our Satguru is an embodiment of Lord Rama, Lord Krishna, Lord Jesus Christ or the past Gurus or prophets.  Baba Ji, whatever your disciples say is certainly based on Truth.  We are receiving the same teachings and guidance from you as these divine Masters preached and distributed during their respective times.  Baba Ji, you only tell us as to where should we go?  If we do not express this belief, this Truth, in open programmes, then we fall from the lofty pedestal of a Gurusikh (disciple).  If we express these feelings then it is considered wrong, nobody believes us.  Please bless us and ordain us as to how can we get out of this dilemma."

Suddenly, Gurudev became serious.  He closed his eyes for a few moments, I don�t know what deep thoughts he was lost in.  After that, as is his nature, he stated in his normal tone, "In my opinion, the only solution for this problem is that the devotees should remain firm in their devotion and should not allow the faith they are supposed to have in their minds for the saint (Master), to decline.  But it is not necessary that in order to show their own devotion, one saint must be compared with some other saint or prophet.  It is good to praise one's own teacher but it is not necessary at all to declare that he is an incarnation of the past teachers, even though it is true that the present teacher is teaching the same truth that 'two plus two makes four' which was taught by the past teachers."

Gurudev paused for a while and added, "We must stress that we should put the teachings of our Satguru into practice, so that when people experience happiness and find life blissful, they themselves may declare that they are receiving the same teachings which were taught by the saints and prophets of the past.  When we sing the glory of our Guru not merely with words but express it through our actions then automatically this mis-conception being mentioned here will come to an end and there will be no need for a devotee to hide his feelings of devotion either."

All of a Sudden, diverting his attention from this topic, Gurdev said, "Several gentlemen who have been given the time to meet, might be waiting. Please find out and if they are there, let them come and meet turn by turn." And I got busy carrying out this responsibility.